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  New AOL Beta Test Without Internet Explorer Underway
Time: 17:39 EST/22:39 GMT | News Source: ActiveWin.com | Posted By: Robert Stein

The Beta Team is happy to announce the start of a new Beta test -- AOL 7.0 with Netscape Gecko. The software used in this test is based on the most recent version of AOL 7.0 with Netscape Gecko as its internal browser. Netscape Gecko is an embeddable browser designed to support open Internet standards, and is used for products like Netscape 6.2 and Instant AOL. This Beta tests the functionality of the AOL 7.0 software with Netscape Gecko.

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#1 By 3339 (65.198.47.10) at 3/14/2002 6:15:13 PM
the web, CNET, AP, Reuters, take your pick, they're all reporting it now.

#2 By 665 (205.188.197.51) at 3/14/2002 6:39:14 PM
I'm on it right now... and I don't like it. It does seems slower than it used to be, but it is still in beta form, so you never know.

#3 By 665 (205.188.197.51) at 3/14/2002 7:09:15 PM
#9, my computer is plenty fast ;). I agree with Jagged, Mozilla pretty good, but AOL has never been quick even with IE. I have to wonder if this will actuallly do anything to help Netscape. I mean, with 3X million people, it *shoulld*. And how will this affect the trial? It would make AOL look bad if they kept IE while suing them, but will it hurt the case since there will most likely be a lot of people not using IE any longer?

#4 By 665 (64.126.91.172) at 3/14/2002 7:43:38 PM
montana... Yeah, Mozilla is much better than NS. Here is the offical discription from the FAQ:

"Netscape Gecko is an embeddable browser designed to support open Internet standards. Netscape Gecko is used for products such as Netscape 6.2 and Instant AOL. "

I know I probably should dump AOL... I was using them through TCP/IP, but now that they have raised their prices I'm not sure I'm sticking around. I like testing their stuff, though.

#5 By 3653 (68.53.80.99) at 3/15/2002 1:18:56 AM
AOL's stock got hit hard when they reported only 18% yearly growth in new subscribers, BUT just wait until these subscribers have to install this other browser. 18% will seem like the good old days.

#6 By 2332 (129.21.145.80) at 3/15/2002 5:41:55 AM
#16 - "Mozilla is the open-source browser on which Netscape 6 is based..."

Actually, Mozilla is based on Netscape 6, not the other way around. The vast majority of Mozilla code was written by Netscape, who then released it under the GPL.

From that point it has branched off and is now somewhat different from Netscape, and no longer has any official affliation with Netscape the company, other than a few employees contributing to the codebase.

#7 By 135 (209.180.28.6) at 3/15/2002 9:42:06 AM
#25 - The Mozilla developers are paid Netscape staff members.

Mozilla is in effect based off of Netscape 6.

#8 By 1845 (12.254.231.11) at 3/16/2002 11:40:38 AM
ssfreitas, one of the problems with implementing standards and ONLY standards is that the standardization process is slow and time consuming. Just because there was a standard (DTD) for xml schemas, didn't mean that DTD was the end all be all for schema definitions. It didn't allow for some of the most basic of things you'd expect in a schema - namely types.

How does this apply to HTML? Well there is a lot more to HTML then just static rendering. Another major component is the HTML object model (DOM). Since Netscape and Microsoft both had scripting in the browser before an HTML scripting language had been standardized, they had both extended the existing standards and made themselves proprietary. Why did they do it? Because that's what their customers wanted.

I've been a web developer for several years now, and I can say that if I only had to code IE-only sites, I'd be a happy man. One can argue that it is evil for Microsoft to have proprietary extension which they support, but I say that their extensions are great! Microsoft is quite often produces API's that are easy for developers to work with, so developers often quite enjoy working with Microsoft API's. If Microsoft gives me an extension API to make my life easier, I'll use it if I can. I'd rather give my viewers the best experience possible (via IE), then write a dumbed down site, just so it can be cross browser and cross platform.

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