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  Microsoft calls Google-Yahoo search pact in Japan anticompetitive
Time: 08:01 EST/13:01 GMT | News Source: ActiveWin.com | Posted By: Robert Stein

Microsoft is none too pleased about a newly minted four-year search pact between Google and Yahoo in Japan. Yahoo Japan on Tuesday said plans to use Google’s search engine and search ad-delivery system. It’s worth noting, as NewsFactor did, that Yahoo owns 35 percent of Yahoo Japan, while distributor SoftBank owns another 39 percent. Financial terms of the four-year, non-exclusive partnership were not disclosed.

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#1 By 15406 (216.191.227.68) at Wednesday, July 28, 2010 01:42:06 PM
They're absolutely shameless hypocrites. It's certainly peculiar how they don't care about the competitiveness of a market when they're the ones on top. Plus, search is wide-open; it's not like Google has some kind of monopoly that they are actively abusing. Anyone can switch search engines anytime with ease as there is no lock-in mechanism other than the quality of the results. Anyone with the hardware and a spiffy algorithm can enter the search market. I'm not sure how MS can claim Google/Yahoo is anti-competitive when you consider the aforementioned. Google didn't invent the search engine. Indeed, there were many "kings" before Google arrived and displaced them all. If MS wants to compete in the classic sense (and not the "Microsoft" sense eg tilted field, dirty tricks) then they need to do a better job of providing relevant search results instead of whining.

#2 By 20505 (216.102.144.11) at Wednesday, July 28, 2010 06:53:20 PM
Latch,

Because it is MS that is pointing out that one company in the Japanese market will have greater than 90% of the search market it is somehow wrong? That line of reasoning makes no sense to me.

Are they hypocritical? Possibly; but who cares, the fact stands that the deal is monopolistic. I will assure you that the EU or even Canada would see this as anti-competitive.

Your argument gets into the realm of "if I don't like the guy, he must be wrong" point of view.

#3 By 20505 (216.102.144.11) at Wednesday, July 28, 2010 06:59:54 PM
By the way, I saw this great Firefox add-on that alerts you every time you send info to Google.

Check out the video, it's pretty eye opening to those that think that "good ol' Google" is so benign...

http://vimeo.com/13648673

Keep an eye out for the upper right corner that tells you what percentage of your surfing is communicated to Google.

#4 By 15406 (216.191.227.68) at Thursday, July 29, 2010 12:42:42 PM
#2: Because it is MS that is pointing out that one company in the Japanese market will have greater than 90% of the search market it is somehow wrong? That line of reasoning makes no sense to me.

I never said anything of the sort. I said it was hypocritical of them to do so. Google + Yahoo = 90% is a fact that is neither good or bad, right or wrong on its face. As I've stated many, many times before, having a dominant market position is not illegal or wrong. It's the ensuing abuse of that position that gets companies into trouble.

Are they hypocritical? Possibly; but who cares

I care. I don't like being told "Do as I say, not as I do." MS is world-famous for doing this. The latest hilarity was how Corbis partnered with some company, stole their technology and then dumped them. Hmm, a company that pretends to partner, then screws the partner... what other company does that sound like and has that kind of track record? Who owns Corbis again? I'm sure there's a link but I just can't think of it...

the fact stands that the deal is monopolistic. I will assure you that the EU or even Canada would see this as anti-competitive.

I don't believe so. I've explained how it isn't anti-competitive. Can you explain to me how it is?

Your argument gets into the realm of "if I don't like the guy, he must be wrong" point of view.

Huh? My argument is more "this guy that likes to kick people in the nuts is complaining that someone kicked him in the nuts, and he's a hypocritical, shameless a-hole for doing so."

It's said better here:

http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/blog-post/1725295/microsoft-angry-yahoo-google-tie



 

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