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  Palladium Details
Time: 01:01 EST/06:01 GMT | News Source: E-Mail | Posted By: Robert Stein

Here are some MS Palladium details (notes) that were dropped our way, there is a lot of information but if you read through it all you will get a lot out of it. These are dated from Friday, so they are still fresh. We believe the notes are authentic. Here is a short excerpt:

  • Peter Biddle at Microsoft began thinking around 1997 about how to protect his bits when they were on someone else's computer. (He was Microsoft's representative at CPTWG and in the DVD-CCA, and was somewhat skeptical of the technical efficacy of software-based DRM.)
  • His view, and the view of some of his colleagues, was that they ultimately did not know how to enforce a policy for the use of information when it was kept and used on somebody else's PC. The PC platform did not seem to support this.
  • In thinking about this, he decided that "a blob is a blob". ["Blob" is a database term for "binary large object", and roughly means "file", "data structure", or "sequence of bits whose internal structure is unanalyzed".] So, it was not appropriate to think about protecting some bits more than others, or enforcing some kinds of policies but not others. So the protection of privacy was the same technical problem as the protection of copyright, because in each case bits owned by one party were being entrusted to another party and there was an attempt to enforce a policy. Technologically, this could not be done securely with software alone.
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#1 By sodablue (5245 Posts) at 7/9/2002 10:34:57 AM
I guess it's easier to spread fantasy than facts.

#2 By mOOzilla (1009 Posts) at 7/9/2002 2:04:36 PM
mmmmm butter...

#3 By baarod (436 Posts) at 7/9/2002 10:21:45 PM
ActiveWin,

When someone like this gets posted here, what are your criteria for it? To get readers? I did not see any proof or even support for many points. If this is a news outlet then you need to blatantly disclaim it to retain journalistic credibility.


#4 By CPUGuy (1772 Posts) at 7/9/2002 11:49:16 PM
baarod: Read it, it's directly from an MS employee.

#5 By sodablue (5245 Posts) at 7/10/2002 1:09:18 AM
No, if you follow through on the links it came from Seth Schoen who works for the EFF.

i.e. if anything it is coming from a source who is more likely going to be biased against Microsoft than for. Although I'm sure sodajerk will now chime in and tell us he's a Microsoft shill who just does Linux stuff as a cover.

#6 By dabears41 (10 Posts) at 7/10/2002 7:53:18 AM
sodablue - I'm kinda stunned at how impressed this EFF guy is with the whole thing (I've read some of the other comments on his site too). Aren't the EFF paranoid nuts??? What kind of drugs did Microsoft give these guy?

#7 By sodablue (5245 Posts) at 7/10/2002 10:28:58 AM
dabears41 - Maybe everybody else talking about Palladium is on drugs?


This post was edited by sodablue on Wednesday, July 10, 2002 at 11:19.

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