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  Internet Explorer Tools for Validating XML and Viewing XSLT Output
Time: 00:24 EST/05:24 GMT | News Source: ActiveWin.com | Posted By: Robert Stein

Currently, when browsing XML files using Microsoft® Internet Explorer, the XML documents are not validated. In addition, when viewing the source of the document, only the XML is returned and there is no way to view the output from the XSL or XSLT style sheet that may have been used to transform that XML document. The Internet Explorer tools for validating XML and viewing XSLT output will enable a shell option when viewing XML files to see the processed XSL output. In addition, you can also validate XML against an embedded schema when loading XML via the Internet Explorer MIME viewer. This can be a useful tool when you are trying to debug XSL formatting problems in Internet Explorer or are doing quick schema validation.

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#1 By zzkj7w (27 Posts) at 3/20/2003 8:32:18 AM
My question is, will this tool be checking for W3C XML standards, or Microsoft's version.

http://www.w3.org/XML/

http://www.internetnews.com/dev-news/article.php/2109101

Will Office 2003 Lead to Lock-in ?

#2 By n4cer (2057 Posts) at 3/20/2003 9:37:37 AM
Microsoft's version follows the W3C standards (which they helped engineer).
Gary Edwards knows nothing about Office 2003 (no surprise there). In that same article, Mark McWilliams, an actual Office 2k3 tester, accurately disputes Edwards' claims.

The usual OSS FUD job.

This post was edited by n4cer on Thursday, March 20, 2003 at 09:43.

#3 By AWBrian (1952 Posts) at 3/20/2003 9:55:15 AM
Wow, Edwards is way off base in that article. How could someone be so wrong about the xml open standards in Office 2003, unless he has not used it yet.

#4 By BobSmith (3719 Posts) at 3/20/2003 2:36:44 PM
n, not to detract from your statement, but I think there is a better way to describe Mr. Edwards. Mr. Edwards knows nothing about XML.

A few things that make no sense - XML Schema define an XML grammar. XML itself is a data format. CSS or XSLT describe the presentation of XML data. Why would an XML doc ever embed presentation information? It's not logical and is contrary to the semantic definition of XML.

Vendor lockin? Certainly Office 2k3 won't be any more lockin-able (yep, I just invented that word) than any previous version. I for one have designed XML Schema and used Word to author XML docs based on that schema. When word saved the file, surprise, surprise, it saved the XML exactly according to my schema. Any application that can read XML can read my doc. If that's vendor lockin, then I love Linux.

What does "Microsoft's version [of XML]" mean? XML is a grammar. XML isn't a language itself. HTML, XHTML, WordML, MathML, BlogML are all languages defined using XML grammars. A document either is or isn't XML. For the uninformed that talk of extensions, perhaps the should look at the definition of the "X" in XML. It stands for eXtensible. XML is so loose for this purpose - an application that can parse XML and accept XML schema, will be able to parse any XML document irrespective of the XML schema upon which it is based. If your doc is valid, it will parse. If it isn't, it won't. Vendor specific XML makes about as much sense a as vendor specific binary number system.

#5 By BobSmith (3719 Posts) at 3/20/2003 2:40:08 PM
JWM, not sure if you've seen Office 2k3 yet, but I remember we chatted a while back about XML support in Office and specifically in Word. WordML (Microsoft's language for authoring Word docs in XML) is standard text base XML. No blobs or other proprietary shortcuts. Just plain old text. The only way to get a blob in a WordML doc is to embed binary data (like an image) in a Word doc.

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