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| Time: 00:52 EST/05:52 GMT | News Source: ActiveWin.com | Posted By: Robert Stein | ||
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Thanks Paul. Features:
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This is an archived static copy of ActiveWin.com. |
| #1 By 1845 (67.161.212.73) at Monday, January 26, 2004 02:06:10 AM |
| Might be worth using if it used Google for searching. |
| #2 By 12071 (203.217.67.71) at Monday, January 26, 2004 06:30:06 AM |
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I see ClosedStandards has a twin =)
Very fitting given that the MSN Toolbar is an almost identical twin of Google's toolbar! |
| #3 By 37 (64.109.31.106) at Monday, January 26, 2004 04:20:58 PM |
| Downloaded and installed, thank you very much. Works great. |
| #4 By 1845 (67.161.212.73) at Monday, January 26, 2004 04:27:54 PM |
| Thanks for the tip. I'm about as optimized as I can get with the IE tool bars and still be comfortable - one row for menu, images (only a few - small no text), address bar (smooshed as close together as possible w/o chevrons, then locked). One row for Google. |
| #5 By 11888 (64.230.68.199) at Monday, January 26, 2004 09:09:26 PM |
| It's almost like it's some kind of weird joke. |
| #6 By 1845 (67.161.212.73) at Monday, January 26, 2004 10:42:02 PM |
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The popup blocker is available in XP sp2. MSN Search has been part of IE for years. What part of this was unique to MSN subscribers?
MSN Premium has firewall and AV from McAffee, bill payment, bigger email box, all of encarta, etc. I don't think this new toolbar bears much resemblance to it. |
| #7 By 9589 (66.57.156.92) at Monday, January 26, 2004 10:49:08 PM |
| Yipes! There goes the Google IPO! lol |
| #8 By 61 (65.32.171.138) at Tuesday, January 27, 2004 01:54:16 AM |
| Bob: It's certainly not for MSN users, MSN 9 has a great pop-up blocker already built in (what I find nice is that you can set it to show a thumbnail of blocked pop-ups, which slide up for a couple seconds, then slide out, so you can see if you wanted that particular pop-up or not). |
| #9 By 12071 (203.185.215.149) at Tuesday, January 27, 2004 03:28:42 AM |
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#8 =)
#14 If "open source" clones a whole OS, down to the exact same file names, parker has a mental fit!!! If Microsoft clones Google's toolbar, parker still manages to try and have a mental fit over "open source"! Ho hum ... #15 "set it to show a thumbnail of blocked pop-ups, which slide up for a couple seconds, then slide out, so you can see if you wanted that particular pop-up or not" So then it doesn't actually BLOCK them as such (as it needs to download them to create a thumbnail!), it just hides them from you whilst giving you the option whether or not to view them. Nice feature if that's what you're after but I'd rather it just block them rather than have to download things I'll never want to look at. This post was edited by chris_kabuki on Tuesday, January 27, 2004 at 03:31. |
| #10 By 1845 (67.161.212.73) at Tuesday, January 27, 2004 07:37:55 AM |
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kabuki, you're not much different from parker in that regard. Pot. Kettle. Black.
CPU, it has some nifty features that Google's doesn't. I wonder how similar the MSN toolbar blocker is to the MSN 9 Explorer blocker. JWM, ah, gotcha. I was on the MSN 9 beta, so I'm relatively familiar with its features. I never thought much about the popup blocker, since I'd been using the Google toolbar 2.0 for quite a while. That's why your comments caught me offguard. I think the ready information sidebar, access to all of Encarta, bill pay services, AV and firewall from McAfee, etc. are better selling points. To many, I guess, the popup blocker is a big deal. Either way, it'll be a moot point for all XP users in a few months when SP2 is released. |
| #11 By 12071 (203.217.67.71) at Tuesday, January 27, 2004 08:58:48 AM |
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#17 "kabuki, you're not much different from parker in that regard. Pot. Kettle. Black."
Based on your comments I find it a little ironic that you're saying "Pot Kettle Black", but let's leave the personal comments to parker shall we. Maybe you won't admit it, perhaps I'm wrong in thinking this, but I can just imagine if this scenario was reversed (i.e. MSN creating their toolbar first and then Google coming out with an almost perfect replica!). We'd have parker informing us all how all OSS do it copy, no doubt he'd throw in a few completely irrelevant statements about security or market share or whatever the fun word of the week is, and the rest of the MS-only-gang (we all know who they are) having a poke here and there about how Microsoft continues to "innovate", whilst the rest of us feel ill everytime we hear the word "innovation" being thrown around! The last great "innovation" (before this one of course) was the innovation of putting all the data for a single document in a, wait for it, single xml file! Ingenious! In any case, this toolbar brings a lot of handy features to users so bring it on, I myself will stick with the Google toolbar as the Google search engine is superior and the MSN toolbar doesn't bring me any additional functionality that I am looking for. |
| #12 By 12071 (203.217.67.71) at Tuesday, January 27, 2004 10:20:41 AM |
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#19 "you do recognize the lack of innovation in the OSS world."
Not sure where you read that or what you're on... but good luck with it =) "I mean, the coolest project in OSS right now is mono ... a clone of C# and VB" Perhaps you meant a non-Microsoft version of .NET, based on those parts that have been made open standards, rather than a "clone of C# and VB"? And if the biggest insult that you can throw at Mono is that it's trying to provide a .NET platform for Linux, then that's fairly poor. After all, I thought you would be behind other developers when they chose to use Microsoft technologies? Maybe not. And lets not forget what .NET is a clone of! Also, I'm curious, how did you come to the conclusion that the "coolest" OSS project is Mono? And by what definition of "coolest"? Surely you've heard of a couple of slightly bigger OSS projects, things like Linux, Apache, MySQL etc. Are they not as "cool"? |
| #13 By 19992 (164.214.4.61) at Tuesday, January 27, 2004 11:43:44 AM |
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double post
This post was edited by happyguy on Tuesday, January 27, 2004 at 11:47. |
| #14 By 19992 (164.214.4.61) at Tuesday, January 27, 2004 11:43:57 AM |
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#19
Emacs (one of the first on screen editors - definate pioneer in its field) CERN httpd (first webserver) TeX (word processor) Spell-checker (first spell checker ever) OSS software developed for users of ARPAnet ed (word proc with search capabilities based on regular expressions) SGML (from a student paper written by Charles F. Goldfarb, Ed Mosher, and Ray Lorie) And a lot of the commercial unices were reimplementations of features that were already in ITS, which was arguably open-source. I mean, the coolest project in OSS right now is mono ... a clone of C# and VB Oh yeah, forgot one: Tcl (where VB obtained alot of it's feature from) Now then, what has MS innovated? This post was edited by happyguy on Tuesday, January 27, 2004 at 11:46. |
