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  Dell not offering Windows Mobile 2003 SE to existing Axim customers
Time: 11:02 EST/16:02 GMT | News Source: ActiveWin.com | Posted By: Byron Hinson

What are Dell’s plans regarding the recently announced Windows Mobile 2003 Second Edition?

"Dell will deploy Windows Mobile 2003 Second Edition in future Axim products. We have no plans at this time to offer Windows Mobile 2003 Second Edition updates for current Axim X3 or Axim X5 products."

Looks like Dell won't be offering existing users of their Axim X3 or X5 Pocket PC's free upgrades to the bug fixing and improved Windows Mobile 2003 Second edition (Not even an option to buy it either from the looks of it. So if you are looking at buying any Pocket PC's from Dell right now - don't! Shame as both Hewlett Packard and Toshiba are offering updates from April/May. The stranger thing is that at the current MDC show they (Dell, Toshiba and HP) are flashing Pocket PC's to the new OS after users sign an NDA.

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#1 By qt123 (1 Posts) at 3/25/2004 12:04:47 PM
I purchased my Axim last year during the period where I'd receive a free OS upgrade to Windows Mobile 2003. FOUR MONTHS went by with repeated inquiries. All I ever got was the shipment date has been delayed. In the end I returned the product for full refund and bought an HP IPAQ h2210.

Dell's PDA department needs a serious kick in the ass!!

#2 By Morindin (70 Posts) at 3/25/2004 12:16:05 PM
Me I just hope HP will offer it for my iPaq h5450!!!

#3 By Mr. Dee (3459 Posts) at 3/25/2004 1:31:57 PM
I'm waiting until late summer or early fall to buy my PocketPC, I probably should wait until Mobile 2004 or 2005 comes out.

And I'm staying clear of Dell.

#4 By sphbecker (1135 Posts) at 3/25/2004 1:38:44 PM
My Axim x5 worked well, until I upgraded it to 2003, then it really sucked! I don't know what the deal is, but perhaps Dell doesn't want to have to deal with more upgrade problems.

#5 By Fritzly (1155 Posts) at 3/25/2004 2:49:34 PM
A further example of what happens when hardware manufacturers are the ones in charge of distributing software! This is the reason why I will not buy a Media Center PC until the OS will be available in retail stores and I cancelled the order for a second Toshiba Tablet.

#6 By ch (524 Posts) at 3/25/2004 3:17:18 PM
<pop forehead> I could've had an iPAQ!

After dealing with unsupportive Pocket PC manufacturers, I finally bought a HP iPAQ h2215. Never considered a Dell Axim. An HP person mentioned off the record that the Second Edition will be available for h2215, h4155, h4355, h5155, and h5555 models.

#7 By bobsireno (1367 Posts) at 3/25/2004 4:44:29 PM
Maybe Dell needs to send them back to China to get the upgrade installed.

#8 By monkeydog (825 Posts) at 3/25/2004 4:49:43 PM
Dee you cheap bastard - you won't even buy an ActiveWin sticker - you expect us to believe that you are going to buy a Pocket PC?

#9 By mooresa56 (2850 Posts) at 3/25/2004 7:43:05 PM
Whatever happened to Palm?

#10 By ch (524 Posts) at 3/25/2004 11:23:59 PM
#9: Palm's doing well. I can understand how you would miss things that are not MS. (What?!? There's life after MS?!? Heretic!)

#11 By mooresa56 (2850 Posts) at 3/26/2004 2:22:05 AM
#10 - "Palm's doing well". Really? Seems to me they have lost 20 or so market share points (1/3 of their market share) in the last couple of years.

Thats an odd definition of "well".

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"Hey Tom, how do you feel"
"I feel WELL"
"Really, cause I noticed you've lost a leg, a hand, and ear, and most of your teeth"
"But at least I'm alive"

#12 By ch (524 Posts) at 3/26/2004 10:36:38 AM
#11: "Thats an odd definition of 'well'."

Palm's market share was still over 1/3 before the Handspring acquisition last year. If you include Handspring and Sony, the market share is over 50%. Considering the trend towards non-PDA devices, I would consider this "well". Your Tom analogy is ridiculous, people aren't well without body parts. Palm, by acquiring, Handspring is gaining. The spin-off of the OS group was a good idea too.

I consider 140% growth in stock value over the last year "well". Don't you?

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"Hey Tom, how's your MSFT stock?"
"Stagnant over the last year"
"Really, cause my PLMO, PSRC is up over 140%!"

#13 By mooresa56 (2850 Posts) at 3/26/2004 6:48:24 PM
I thought I mentioned TWO YEARS as my timeframe, but thats ok. I'll use YOUR TIMEFRAME of ONE YEAR...

"Really, cause my PSRC is up over 140%!"

Interesting, because when I look up PSRC the stock, I see that it is down a full 50% since it began trading. Exactly how does "up over 140%" equate to "down 50%". Did you think I wouldn't check the FACTS?

PSRC 1-year chart
http://finance.yahoo.com/q/bc?s=PSRC&t=1y&l=on&z=m&q=l&c=

And PLMO (down 75% over the past 2 years) gained 80% in the past year.

How does +80% and -50% equate to your +140%?

PLMO 1-year chart
http://finance.yahoo.com/q/bc?s=PLMO&t=1y&l=on&z=m&q=l&c=

Next time you post, you might want to do a minute or two of research.

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And as for your grouping SONY with PALMs market share, I don't follow. I'm not lumping HP in with Dell.

No matter how you spin it, Palm isn't doing WELL. Their market share is declining even while the products they sell are selling at lower and lower price points. Normally, a low price would equate to HIGHER market share.


#14 By ch (524 Posts) at 3/27/2004 10:34:03 AM
#13: "Next time you post, you might want to do a minute or two of research."

In October of last year, Palm split apart to form palmOne and PalmSource. PalmOne is the hardware side of the business, while PalmSource is the OS side.

Example: 100 shares of Palm stock acquired a year ago at $10.00/share would have cost you $1000.00. The split of PALMD into PLMO and PSRC would give you 100 shares of PLMO and 30 shares of PSRC. As of EOD 03/27/2004, your portfolio would be valued at $2390.00--a 140% increase. If you sold the PSRC right after the split, you would have made even more.

http://finance.yahoo.com/q/bc?s=PLMO&t=1y
http://finance.yahoo.com/q/bc?s=PSRC&t=1y

(MSFT over the same one year period is flat.)

Generally, technology stock investments from two or more years ago are not performing well today. Even MSFT would be down about 20%. The fools that drove the dot com boom have lost most of their money and now the reasonable investors can appreciate modest gains by investing in good companies.

#13: "And as for your grouping SONY with PALMs market share, I don't follow. I'm not lumping HP in with Dell."

Ok. Compare Palm market share by brand than, Palm has 1/3 of the market. More than twice any other brand.

#13: "No matter how you spin it, Palm isn't doing WELL."

No spin here, just a well performing investment.

#15 By fragranceoils (1 Posts) at 3/29/2004 6:36:26 AM
Apparently Dell may offer the Second Edition update to current Axim customers if there is a demand for it. Please point your browsers to the online petition at:

http://www.petitiononline.com/WM03SE/

And badger your Dell sales reps!

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