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  Diamond, What little is known?
Time: 13:42 EST/18:42 GMT | News Source: | Posted By: James Proud

For those who do not know, Diamond is the next version of Microsoft Windows Media Center Edition. Diamond will be based on Windows Vista like the past versions of MCE have been based on XP. Because of the complexity and how advance the UI is, it is said that Diamond will have its own special Aero Tier. A tier requiring much higher system specifications than even Aero Glass. Not too much is known feature wise about Diamond, but I can tell you of a couple features. Continued at source...

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#1 By 1896 (68.153.171.248) at Sunday, July 31, 2005 04:15:08 PM
2GB oF RAM seems a lot for an average machine. I do have to GB of DDRAM here but this box is a workstation.

This post was edited by Fritzly on Sunday, July 31, 2005 at 16:16.

#2 By 3 (62.253.128.14) at Sunday, July 31, 2005 04:45:24 PM
Well in my view 2005 media centers need 1gb ram easily, 2 for the best performance. So by the time the next brand new media center os is out, 2gb will sound right considering how many transmissions will be in HDTV format too.

#3 By 32313 (208.163.63.50) at Sunday, July 31, 2005 06:29:09 PM
We are talking about Windows Vista Media Center Edition. Of course it will need 2GBs of RAM, vanilla Vista will need a mininum of 1GB of RAM much more Vista MCE which will have more rich capabilities.

#4 By 665 (67.185.98.5) at Sunday, July 31, 2005 07:28:22 PM
Vista won't need 1 GB of RAM. It will certainly run better with a gig, but I bet the minimum could be as low as 256 MB and at most 512.

#5 By 23443 (24.217.128.80) at Sunday, July 31, 2005 10:14:43 PM
Who is James Proud and why should anyone believe anything he says? He is speculating here. I speculate that MCE will need 10GB of RAM. My speculation doesn't mean jack, and neither does his.

End of Rant. :)

TowerDave

#6 By 1845 (67.172.237.116) at Sunday, July 31, 2005 10:41:30 PM
I'll second that, Todd. Beta 1 posted to MSDN does quite well on one of my boxes with 512 MB RAM, 128 of which is shared with video.

#7 By 11888 (64.230.33.5) at Sunday, July 31, 2005 10:55:58 PM
towerdave, I'll see your 10GB of RAM speculation, raise you to 256GB of RAM and toss in 3TB of required disk space.

#8 By 2459 (69.22.124.157) at Monday, August 01, 2005 01:15:49 AM
I'll third it Bob and Todd. PCs will run "Longhorn" with as little as 128MB RAM (officially). This is what MS is currently targeting for "Longhorn"-capable PCs. "Longhorn"-Capable PCs will run "Longhorn" but may not be able to take advantage of some of it's higher end features like the Glass UI. "Longhorn"-Ready PCs will take advantage of LDDM, Glass, and other things (though, as usual, the better the system, the better the experience). 512MB of RAM is recommended for "Longhorn"-Ready PCs.

The current minimum specs go as low as an Intel Mobile P III w/ SpeedStep. ACPI BIOS is a must to boot "Longhorn". APM BIOSes are no longer supported (this shouldn't be a problem for most as ACPI has bee around for years).

#9 By 1845 (67.172.237.116) at Monday, August 01, 2005 10:50:17 AM
A guy with a blog doth not a reporter make. I suspect the impetus for the complaint is that a self proclaimed reporter linked to his own blog to voice his essentially baseless speculation.

MrRoper, I'll see your 256GB/3TB and raise you two cinema displays with protected output path support.

#10 By 3 (62.253.128.14) at Monday, August 01, 2005 11:36:35 AM
I guess for vista it will be a wait and see thing, if you are judging beta 1 on what kind of PC you will need for the final version then you clearly don't realise the overhead the new UI will cause for many users. But considering this was a thread about Media Center I'll still stick to the agreement that right now Media Center PC's need 1GB ram for a good performance, and in a year when Vista Media Center Edition comes out, that will easily increase thanks the HDTV and the newer features being built into it.

If you want to run Media Center with only 256MB or 512 then all credit to you, you must have the patients of a saint.

#11 By 32313 (72.27.3.175) at Monday, August 01, 2005 12:52:14 PM
I am running Vista Professional on 256MBs of RAM, 2GHz Pentium M and its fairly fast. But in the case Vista MCE, more than 1GB will be needed, I see 2GBs, 3.6GHz as the minimum for a fair enough experience and a x64 processor recommended.

#12 By 2459 (69.22.124.157) at Monday, August 01, 2005 04:59:49 PM
HDTV alone won't cause an increase in system RAM requirements. MCE currently supports HDTV, though only over-the-air streams (without a settop box) due to lack of support for QAM or other encryption/access control technologies used by cable/satellite broadcasters.

If there's an emphasis on multiple, simultaneous streams, or similar, this could increase RAM requirements, however, the bulk of this will be GPU RAM, not system RAM, in order to get best performance by holding the surfaces rendered in local GPU memory. 1GB of system memory is a realistic recommendation for this case to reduce the performance hit when paging between GPU and system RAM, and the harddrive.



 

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