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| Time: 10:32 EST/15:32 GMT | News Source: | Posted By: Michael Dragone | ||
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There have been some questions raised about how we service the Windows Update components and concerns expressed about software installing silently. I want to clarify the issue so that everyone can better understand why the self-updating of Windows Update acts the way it does. |
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This is an archived static copy of ActiveWin.com. |
| #1 By 86309 (172.188.181.247) at Thursday, September 20, 2007 01:46:14 PM |
| as usual microsoft does what it wants and does not respect the customer at all. what other underhand tricks are they up too? |
| #2 By 2960 (68.100.112.199) at Thursday, September 20, 2007 02:40:39 PM |
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Have these guys ever heard of Executive briefs ?
Just give me the damned bullet points! Whenever I see something that needs only a few sentences to explain take 10 paragraphs, the first thing I ask myself is "ok, what are they hiding in all that background noise". TL |
| #3 By 3653 (65.80.181.153) at Thursday, September 20, 2007 04:26:23 PM |
| A further example of the coma that overtakes the reader when the author is not succinct... nicely proven by TL's own comment. |
| #4 By 28801 (65.90.202.10) at Thursday, September 20, 2007 07:28:50 PM |
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First of all, this is from last week.
Second, #1 and #2 - it makes perfect sense to me, I don't know why you are bellyaching! |
| #5 By 1896 (68.153.171.248) at Thursday, September 20, 2007 10:11:46 PM |
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#4: It does not to me; unless the computer owner set the program to "Full Auto" WU should ask me if I want it to update itself, simple as that.
Second but not less important; why this verbose explanation has been published only after this issue was discovered and not up-front? Btw I am not a conspiracy theorist just a MS shareholder disappointed by poor management. This post was edited by Fritzly on Thursday, September 20, 2007 at 22:12. |
| #6 By 32132 (64.180.206.166) at Friday, September 21, 2007 12:33:55 AM |
| #5 I thought you said you were switching to a Mac. Now you are a Microsoft shareholder. Wow. What a turnaround! |
| #7 By 1896 (68.153.171.248) at Friday, September 21, 2007 06:23:29 AM |
| Ipse dixit |
| #8 By 2960 (68.100.112.199) at Friday, September 21, 2007 08:17:20 AM |
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A worse example is Ed Bott's story on ZDNet entitled:
"Everything you’ve read about Vista DRM is wrong" Part one came out, and read like a Novel. Then there was a part two. Jeez. Today, there is a part 3, no less than 4 pages long! I have no idea if anything worthwhile is in there. I can't make it past the second paragraph. TL |
| #9 By 13030 (198.22.121.110) at Friday, September 21, 2007 09:15:17 AM |
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From the article, "WU does not automatically update itself when Automatic Updates is turned off...". I can vouch for that behavior--I get a prompt to proceed if WU has an update for itself. I don't have a problem with WU updating itself if you have configured any other automated behavior.
#5, You will perplex and befuddle (i.e. cause cognitive dissonance for) NotParker by having Microsoft stock and being critical of the company at the same time. |
| #10 By 23275 (24.179.4.158) at Friday, September 21, 2007 09:16:36 AM |
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#8, TL, I think it was a very good piece of reporting.
Ed Bott addressed the technical truth of Windows Vista's ability to support the playback of protected content and exposed the outright fallacies present in a lot of material being held out as fact. The reality is that digital media is popular and that people enjoy it and prefer it to other forms of media - both in terms of quality and the distribution model employed [e.g., digital media and or distributed content delivery]. Vista supports this - BUT... it also does so in ways that are mandated by the likes of the DVD Forum, content owners and the LAW. That's really the take away. DRM isn't going to go away in the context of controls and accountability. It may morph into some hybrid where content is marked, so if it is stolen it can be traced, but it isn't going to go away - no more than the locks on our homes and cars are going to go away. It really comes down to people having expected Microsoft to "stand up to" the content owners and somehow prevent them from using DRM to protect their content.... that is just silly... after all.... the content owners very obviously would have said: "Hey, Microsoft, your platform is used by over 90% of computer users world-wide and it is being used to steal our content... what are you going to do about it and you had better work with us to provide a responsible way for your platform to support digital media..." It is the content owners who are applying DRM - insisting on it and frankly, it is their right to do so. Now, fair use is a different matter and DRM sure does hammer away at the user experience and where it result in multiple purchases of the same content, they media owners rejoice. That does present a problem, but it isn't caused by Microsoft, and in many ways, Microsoft is working to mitigate such challenges. From where I sit, restricting "Fair Use" also hurts Microsoft, as does DRM - but piracy and theft hurt them all worse - and us, too, by the way... Where are the demands for prosecution and tough sentencing of thieves and pirates? They are the real bad guys in this entire mess. |
| #11 By 2960 (68.100.112.199) at Friday, September 21, 2007 09:44:28 AM |
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It may be. I just have NO desire to read something that is 20 pages long that only requires 1.
I have no time for such foolishness. TL |
| #12 By 28801 (65.90.202.10) at Friday, September 21, 2007 09:57:38 AM |
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My God people! We are talking about Windows Update updating itself. Big deal!
With respect to the article being too verbose - I thought it was a nicely written one page explanation. This is nothing compared to some of Lloyd’s postings. |
| #13 By 23275 (24.179.4.158) at Friday, September 21, 2007 10:14:16 AM |
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#12 LOLOLOL
Man last week they were too short.... now we're back to too long... Somebody post a style guide. |
| #14 By 15406 (216.191.227.68) at Friday, September 21, 2007 10:47:02 AM |
| It's the principle of having control over one's system. If I set WU so that I approve all updates, then no updates of ANY kind should be installed without my prior notice and approval. It really is that simple. If WU detects an update to WU, tell me at next login or via popup if already logged in that said update is available and required to process further updates. This is an example of MS meaning well, but not handling it properly. |
| #15 By 1896 (68.153.171.248) at Friday, September 21, 2007 11:14:53 AM |
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#9: I am a big fan of Voltaire, therefore the opposite of a zealot, and a pragmatic individual.
In order to buy what I like there is a fundamental pre-requisite: enough money in the bank. In order to create this liquidity I invest in what I believe will generate a profit; MS, Sun, Jo n Ann barbecue ribs, I do not care. In other words I drive a BMW because I like it but this does not mean I would not invest in Ford or GM. "Pecunia not olet" |
| #16 By 1896 (68.153.171.248) at Friday, September 21, 2007 11:22:22 AM |
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#13: IMO the issue is not the lenght of what people write but the quality; reading a paragraph written by an idiot is a waste of time;reading five pages of an interesting article, the fact I agree with the author opinions and statements or not is ininfluential, is time well spent.
Just in case: your posts belongs to the latter. :-) |
| #17 By 28801 (65.90.202.10) at Friday, September 21, 2007 11:39:34 AM |
| Lloyd, don't get me wrong - I find most of your posts entertaining and informative. |
| #18 By 23275 (24.179.4.158) at Friday, September 21, 2007 11:58:55 AM |
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#17, No worries at all.
I'll try and find a sweet spot, so to speak - it's just that some issues and topics deserve a more complete answer - this may however, not be the best place to share such. |
| #19 By 13030 (198.22.121.110) at Friday, September 21, 2007 12:32:06 PM |
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#15, Agreed. I try to be pragmatic about the world around me. It's actually quite hard since most people are fanatical about something and can't understand why others don't share their extreme view.
My modest investment strategy is to buy what I know. However, I have limits and will not give a company my money, either via investment or sales, if I believe they act, or have acted, in a repugnant manner. For example, I stopped buying Exxon (and now Mobil) gas after the Valdez spill since the company demonstrated more concern for shareholders than the environment and livelihoods that were devastated. I have not directly or knowingly given them a penny since. I do believe that Microsoft is a good company and is trying to do the right thing more often than not. There is also no doubt that the wealth generated by Microsoft has been put to many good uses around the world. Now, as far as BMWs are concerned, pragmatism can have its limits. I bought my wife an X5. It's a very well made car with excellent safety features--good for her stay-at-home mom duties with the kids. I probably would never buy a BMW for myself because I can't justify spending that much for a car to go to and from work. |
| #20 By 3653 (65.80.181.153) at Friday, September 21, 2007 02:17:26 PM |
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ch, sorry to hear you missed out on XOM. Opposite of you in many respects, I try to buy when no one else wants it (the proverbial 'blood in the streets'). I bought XOM in mid-2003 when everyone started turning attention to solar/wind, and since then have gotten a modest 7% back via DRiP and 136% in appreciation.
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| #21 By 8556 (12.207.97.148) at Friday, September 21, 2007 02:50:56 PM |
| I reckon that Micrisoft sent some spiders and other bugs down the interweb tubes to eat at my komputer till the dagnabbed thing is a-fixed. I reckon. |
