Microsoft may have sold out of Surface devices, but if the experiences of the UK channel are a measure for the rest of Europe, that's not saying a lot.
Sources tell us that fewer than 2,000 units landed at the shores of Blighty since Redmond cleared the way for a select band of nine resellers to start peddling its wares from 15 August, three-quarters of which were the RT version.
Back orders are growing, our contacts tell us, and demand has not been overwhelming, but clearly Microsoft is forecasting more conservatively.
Channels across Europe were understood to have a "slight oversupply" said our chatty people close to Microsoft, but not to any great extent.
This may put into some context Microsoft's grandiose claims last week that it was nearly out of stock of the first generation RT and Pro models ahead of the 22 October launch of the next-generation gear.