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Apple's Jobs: Microsoft and Dell copy us but won't beat the iPod | |
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| Time: 02:35 EST/07:35 GMT | News Source: Silicon | Posted By: Chris Hedlund | ||
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We put iTunes on Windows and kind of helped them out there. Microsoft has to earn a living too - we'll leave some software for them to write. Apple CEO Steve Jobs has hit out at fellow tech heavyweights Dell and Microsoft, claiming they have been copying Apple, and put the company's tight-lipped strategy down to a refusal to give its rivals a roadmap ahead of time. Speaking yesterday at Apple's annual European conference, Apple Expo in Paris, he said: "Microsoft is copying us with its operating system... Dell's trying to copy us with its hardware. That's fine but we'd like to not give them a map and show them where we're going to go. At least they can follow our taillights." |
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| #1 By 2459 (69.22.124.157) at Thursday, September 22, 2005 06:40:22 AM |
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Apple copied MS' roadmap given at PDC 2003 and implemented it in their usual half-arsed way in Tiger just as I said they would right before WWDC at the time. ( /awin/comments.asp?HeadlineIndex=25091 )
Now they're working on Quartz 2D Extreme (which finally gives them drawing on the GPU), 256x256 icon support, and full resolution-independence. Apple is tight-lipped so they have plausible deniability (though it hasn't been too plausible so far). They can sit back and see MS' open research and roadmaps and take advantage of not having to create a nice developer story around the featureset, which leads to faster implementation that only compares visually but is not necessarily equal in functionality or extensibility. RE: Dell -- It is Apple whose hardware has become more a PC each year until now it is a PC running an Intel CPU (and likely chipset) no less. Projection and reality distortion combined -- wow. This post was edited by n4cer on Thursday, September 22, 2005 at 06:45. |
| #2 By 7754 (65.27.90.2) at Thursday, September 22, 2005 08:14:17 AM |
| I wonder if Jobs thinks MS is copying them in the 64-bit space... even though OS X is STILL *NOT* a 64-bit OS, at least not in the way they advertise it--GUI apps cannot take advantage of more than 4 GB of memory, for example. (I like this from one site: "Having finally delivered a 64-bit PowerPC architecture... Microsoft is clearly feeling some pressure, as it rushes 64-bit support to market while taking sound bite pot shots at Apple." Nevermind that Microsoft has offered 64-bit OSes for YEARS now, or that *IBM* delivers the PowerPC architecture... and for that matter, show me how to program a truly 64-bit app in Carbon or Cocoa.) You're right, n4cer--reality distortion indeed; it's what makes Jobs the smart leader he is, too. I think the iPods are slick, but I think the way OS X has evolved is revealing--put features in it primarily to make sure they're FIRST above all else. Fix them later and let them trickle down into the rest of the OS later. Market the heck out of it as a UNIX OS... hopefully no one will notice that the threading model is lousy. It's Apple's way--if it looks good on the outside and in marketing, hopefully no one will care about the mess within... that, and the Apple faithful can (and WILL) be taken for granted. |
| #3 By 2960 (68.101.39.180) at Thursday, September 22, 2005 09:10:44 AM |
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Wow, it's Chilly in here.
Now please excuse me, while I go pick up my "Free PC". After all, it's an ActiveWin hosted Ad, and they are careful to be sure we only get served quality Ad's. TL |
| #4 By 61 (65.32.175.192) at Thursday, September 22, 2005 12:04:56 PM |
| I get a free laptop :) |
| #5 By 415 (69.67.200.50) at Thursday, September 22, 2005 12:10:49 PM |
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{cough}iPod Nano{cough}Creative Labs Zen Nano{cough}
Apple are hypocrits. |
| #6 By 9589 (68.239.105.170) at Thursday, September 22, 2005 01:13:05 PM |
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Here is a five year score card of the three companies:
AAPL 'OO Revenue: 7.98B Earnings: 796M '04 Revenue: 8.28B Earnings: 276M DELL '00 Revenue: 31.89B Profits: 2.24B '04 Revenue: 49.61B Profits: 3.04B MSFT '00 Revenue: 25.30B Profits: 7.22B '04 Revenue: 39.79B Profits: 12.25 Note that while Apple's revenues have remained flat over the last five years their profits have been cut by two-thirds! Meanwhile, Jobs has yet to learn the basics of good advertising, whether it is the switch ads or the periodic lashing out at his betters, Dell and Microsoft, negative advertising is . . . well negative. It just doesn't work. By the way, anyone loading up on Macs lately? I thought not. Why bother? In a little less than a year, the present software will run like crap on the "new" hardware. And, you will have to buy all new software if you want it to run on the "new" hardware. Oh yeah! . . . load 'em up! lol |
| #7 By 2332 (204.9.221.59) at Thursday, September 22, 2005 01:46:25 PM |
| #7 - Can the term "earnings" and the term "profits" be used interchangably in the above data? |
| #8 By 3653 (63.162.177.143) at Thursday, September 22, 2005 04:38:02 PM |
| remember back when the mac zealots had enough strength to at least argue in favor of apple? But in the past year, that has really dropped off. What happened to that very vocal 2% minority? Or perhaps the buyers of simple flash drives aren't all that interested in posting on the internet. |
