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Microsoft: Windows Phone 7 operating system is done | |
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| Time: 16:13 EST/21:13 GMT | News Source: | Posted By: Kenneth van Surksum | ||
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Microsoft has released to manufacturing (RTM’d) the Windows Phone OS 7.0, company officials announced on September 1. “While the final integration of Windows Phone 7 with our partners’ hardware, software, and networks is underway, the work of our internal engineering team is largely complete,” blogged Terry Myerson, the Corporate Vice President of Windows Phone Engineering. |
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| #1 By 89249 (72.213.159.5) at Thursday, September 02, 2010 11:03:10 PM |
| Bets on the first major OS upgrade? With their development momentum I'm expecting something significant before Summer 2011. |
| #2 By 79018 (67.252.59.115) at Friday, September 03, 2010 05:47:40 AM |
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It looks great, but they have quite a way to go to before they can make a dent in either the iPhone or Android sytem.
For a limited time they should almost give the phone away or perhaps give a great deal to students. Some great offer you can't resist. Currently I'm using a used Android phone, my favorite feature is the link to all things Google, Gmail, Google Voice, Calendar etc. The first time I used my cell I was suprised to see all my Gmail contacts, photos and all transfered, it was a wow moment. For me it's all about the cost. Good luck Microsoft, it's not going to be easy. |
| #3 By 35175 (91.84.187.29) at Friday, September 03, 2010 01:19:06 PM |
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I've been a massive Windows Mobile fan for years (my last 4 phones have been WM phones), but Windows Phone 7 has forced me to switch.
I really dislike the clunky block interface, and I'm sorry to say I suspect WP7 is going to turn out to be the "Vista" of WM releases despite the billions of dollars being thrown at the platform. Worst of all MSFT is locking manufacturers into their interface with the arrogant attitude that they know best, and preventing manufacturers from innovating with their own UIs. This along with the multitude of other issues (alienating Compact Framework developers and businesses, lack of cut and paste, etc.) is just the pits. I've switched to Android (on a Samsung Galaxy S) and I can't wait to get started with developing apps for it. |
| #4 By 155468 (65.115.34.244) at Friday, September 03, 2010 01:43:06 PM |
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#3..part of what makes the Iphone and to a lesser extent the Adroid so successful is that there is one 1. There is a single target for developers and manufactures to focus on. With past Win Mobile devices every OEM had a different version and variations. From MS's standpoint bug fixes and updates are now simplified. I won't go into the benefits of this.
How is using XNA, silverlight and .net alienating developers? if anything I am seeing more cohesion and synergy between MS products and tools. The ability to leverage the same code for the xbox and WP7 is compelling feature. I currently I have an Iphone..I will get the WM7 once I find the right hardware..the HTC HD3 aka HD7 looks to be a winner. |
| #5 By 35175 (91.84.187.29) at Saturday, September 04, 2010 08:49:59 AM |
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@Darth_Lord,
It's not just end users that want to customise the launcher experience, but also the manufacturers. They want to differentiate their devices from the crowd and innovate. Apple's launcher, although obvious, is easy to use and intuative. Obviously MSFT don't want to be seen to be copying, so have tried to differentiate their own launcher as much as possible. Sadly, if you don't like this interface it's tough luck for both end users and manufacturers. As for alienating .NET developers - I din't say that! I said they're alienating Compact Framework developers (I'm one of them) as the CF is not supported on WP7. They're expecting everyone to switch to Silverlight, but unfortunately Silverlight (in its current form) has a much more limited set of APIs than the full CF. The final slap in the face that's caused me to switch, and I suspect this is going to hack off most existing WM customers is the fact that *none* of the apps they've previously used or bought for the platform are going to work on WP7. If this is how Microsoft is going to treat their loyal customers, I'd hate to see how they'd treat their enemies. |
| #6 By 89249 (72.213.159.5) at Saturday, September 04, 2010 12:16:43 PM |
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@no1
Custom Launchers - This argument is useless since they've had the option of making custom launchers for nearly a decade and the only decent one has been HTC Sense which is supposedly supported on the HTC WP7 devices. .Net CF - Compact Framework Developers won't care about the change. Maybe you will, but those who are finally excited to be making money doing what they do playing inside the Silverlight sandbox will be a welcome compromise. The only real argument I have is not having SQL Server Compact available to third party apps... but it's slated to be available soon. Backwards Compatibility - This has been the biggest reason why MS has failed at mobile. Placing too much emphasis on supporting previous OS's/Apps. Fortunately for those of us who are excited about WP7 MS is realizing the few customers they'll lose like you are much smaller in number than those they will gain with this much more polished OS. Cut & Paste - Will show up shortly after release, this is common knowledge. Enjoy your Android, I'm not saying I'm only looking at WP7. But your reasoning is fail. You're entitled to your opinion :) |
| #8 By 16797 (99.236.143.109) at Sunday, September 05, 2010 05:55:18 PM |
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#7 You find it SO problematic to switch from one flavor of .NET framework (Compact) to another (WP7/Silverlight), but at the same time you have no problems switching to something COMPLETELY different (Android)?
Strange. |
| #9 By 35175 (80.194.146.10) at Monday, September 06, 2010 08:18:09 AM |
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@gonzo,
Not that strange really. The company I work for produces a number of line of business applications which need to integrate with 3rd party peripherals. Sadly WP7 has no support for native (C/C++) application development, so our native applications won't work. Porting our CF apps is also impossible as they require P/Invoke support to call external native code, which again Silverlight does not support: http://social.msdn.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/windowsphone7series/thread/096b66ee-23c1-47b7-a768-bc2ae9e94c7c We'd rather not have to rewrite our applications and switch over to Android, but Microsoft has effectively made porting our application over to WP7 impossible :-( |
| #10 By 89249 (72.213.159.5) at Monday, September 06, 2010 10:11:56 PM |
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@no1
The manu's aren't going anywhere. They are all going to "concentrate" on android as they see how WP7 pans out. As far as Sense. It is the *only* significant custom launcher on windows mobile in over a decade. I'm all for MS allowing it, but, a consistent, simple ui is what seems to sell in the market. MS is acknowledging that fact. If I had a nickel for every time a group was up in arms about a new and unreleased tech I'd be a super rich. MS has said this first release will be super restricted and was going to explore more tech in the new future. Access to the root Mobile API's is something they've decided they must do... as the libraries available in SL increase or if they find a way to get the CF available over the next year things will change. Remember this is product a little over the year in the making (I'm trying to remember how long they said they had been working on it in Feb ... I think 6-9 months). Moz and Skype will live for now... I'm fairly certain it won't make or break the platform missing a few pieces of software. Skype will probably be helped out by MS after they get this thing live, Moz prob not.... and who cares. Anywho, I say your reasoning is fail since you're taking the "I'm taking my toys and going home" approach before any real platform experience or MS commitment can be measured. |
