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  MSN 8 Asks Users to Pay for Some Online Services
Time: 16:00 EST/21:00 GMT | News Source: Gartner | Posted By: Byron Hinson

Microsoft's decision to move MSN to a partial for-pay model reasonably extends the trend in which content and application providers seek financial legitimacy by countering the popular mid-1990s assertion that information ("content" is the more common term in 2002) "wants to be free." The precipitous decline in competition among Internet information and interaction hubs makes the for-pay business model more defensible than ever — the critical issue here.

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#526 By 2459 (24.233.39.98) at 10/14/2002 10:54:52 PM
Can't you cut and paste the code for similar controls (at least, the ones with similar functionality)?

#527 By 1845 (12.254.162.111) at 10/14/2002 10:58:49 PM
There is a fair amount of cutting and pasting that is possible. There is also a pretty healthy amount of search and replace. Still, though, I have to write a lot of stuff by hand, like matching the fields in a typed dataset with the name of the control. It'd be nice if there were a mechanism that new that Application.Name should be assigned to txtApplicantName.Text, but alas...writing the code for the params for the stored proc calls is also bothersome. Oh well...

#528 By 1845 (12.254.162.111) at 10/14/2002 11:01:59 PM
If I can find some decent argument, I think I can take blue this week. If daz releases the next beta of the forums, I could definately do it.

#529 By 1845 (12.254.162.111) at 10/14/2002 11:03:59 PM
Hmm, maybe I should create an ID and fight with myself. Lol! BobJerk? Htims? Or I could do one of my Russian nicknames. Maybe zver and I should fight. Trouble is he and I agree too much, he's just a little more foul mouthed about it than I am.

#530 By 2459 (24.233.39.98) at 10/14/2002 11:35:37 PM
I put my bit in the bucket in the battle against SJ :-)

#531 By 1845 (12.254.162.111) at 10/14/2002 11:48:09 PM
lol

#532 By 1845 (12.254.162.111) at 10/15/2002 12:00:02 AM
Well, now blue and I are at post war.

#533 By 1845 (12.254.162.111) at 10/15/2002 12:00:20 AM
huh?

#534 By 1845 (12.254.162.111) at 10/15/2002 12:00:35 AM
at what?

#535 By 1845 (12.254.162.111) at 10/15/2002 12:00:46 AM
AT WAR!!

#536 By 1845 (12.254.162.111) at 10/15/2002 12:01:12 AM
Nobody can post whore like I can!

#537 By 1845 (12.254.162.111) at 10/15/2002 12:01:26 AM
Right you are, bob.

#538 By 2459 (24.233.39.98) at 10/15/2002 12:07:53 AM
BobSmith aka "The Whore" :-)

#539 By 1845 (12.254.162.111) at 10/15/2002 12:12:16 AM
lol

#540 By 1845 (12.254.162.111) at 10/15/2002 12:12:44 AM
I'm not at all happy that I just crashed VisualStudio .NET.

#541 By 2459 (24.233.39.98) at 10/15/2002 12:25:20 AM
ouch. Not running the beta Framework or anything are you?

#542 By 2459 (24.233.39.98) at 10/15/2002 12:25:59 AM
Speaking of which, does VS have any recovery features like Office?

#543 By 1845 (12.254.162.111) at 10/15/2002 12:27:32 AM
Nope, I haven't downloaded the 1.1 beta. I'm running 1.0 sp2. I think it just didn't like that I wrote a function with 132 input params. It refuses to give me IntelliSense on it.

#544 By 2459 (24.233.39.98) at 10/15/2002 12:35:34 AM
Might want to check your memory usage or Harddrive space.

Sodajerk is a bit out of control: "Grow some balls"? lol, not to mention his attempted defense of FSF. Even RANT didn't defend FSF.

This post was edited by n4cer on Tuesday, October 15, 2002 at 00:39.

#545 By 2459 (24.233.39.98) at 10/15/2002 12:36:39 AM
And, surprisingly, he has yet to respond to my post. I was expecting a bit of a debate.

#546 By 1845 (12.254.162.111) at 10/15/2002 12:39:49 AM
yeah, sj is a bit too much.

#547 By 1845 (12.254.162.111) at 10/15/2002 12:40:26 AM
it'll be interesting to see how (or if) he responds

#548 By 1845 (12.254.162.111) at 10/15/2002 12:43:14 AM
FSF really bugs me. I try to read gnu.org every so often to make sure in the past I wasn't dreaming about how horrible it is. I'm shocked anew everytime I return.

#549 By 1845 (12.254.162.111) at 10/15/2002 12:51:18 AM
vs.net has only crashed on me a few times and i'm including all the betas. clearly it doesn't like some things - like methods with a LOT of parameters.

#550 By 1845 (12.254.162.111) at 10/15/2002 12:51:36 AM
2100!

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