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Sun's Jonathan Schwartz Takes on Longhorn

Time: 13:34 EST/18:34 GMT | News Source: eWeek | Posted By: Jonathan Tigner

Jonathan Schwartz, Sun Microsystems Inc.'s executive vice president of software, took time after his quarterly Town Hall in San Francisco to sit down with eWEEK Contributing Editor Steve Gillmor in a conversation about Microsoft Corp.'s Longhorn Wave and the market challenges and opportunities it may present for Sun.

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#1 By 2459 (24.175.137.164) at Wednesday, November 19, 2003 02:27:19 PM

Schwartz: It's called "Tiger." J2SE 1.5 will deliver lightning performance on that desktop.

I'm guessing "lightning performance" is roughly equivalent to how Java currently "runs like the wind" on Solaris. ;-) Nice inverse realism from Sun.

#2 By 61 (24.92.223.181) at Wednesday, November 19, 2003 03:08:03 PM

The guy sounds like more of a drone than when I hear Balmer giving interviews.

#3 By 7390 (198.246.16.251) at Wednesday, November 19, 2003 03:09:35 PM

Even before reading the article I knew what his view point/answers were going to be. After having read it nothing has changed. Basically he compares Java the programming language to Longhorn the operating system and surprise surprise Java is better than sliced bread.

#4 By 135 (209.180.28.6) at Wednesday, November 19, 2003 03:18:47 PM

"SG: Notes and Groove creator Ray Ozzie says he's very excited about Longhorn – particularly its validation of Groove innovations in peer-to-peer and XML now baked in to the operating system.
Schwartz: That's a dangerous thing though. The fact that they're baking those things into the OS means that they don't need Ray's product.
SG: He sees the opportunity to build apps on top of that infrastructure.
Schwartz: No company has ever monetized Microsoft's infrastructure in the history of Microsoft. "

That line right there folks...

Does Schwartz just not get it? Or is he just mad because he can't sell it himself?

#5 By 7754 (216.160.8.41) at Wednesday, November 19, 2003 03:51:58 PM

"And this year, ring tones will be $8-10 billion."

Yikes. I can understand wanting to burn Nokia ring tone #6 at the stake, but to the tune of $8-10 billion? That's embarrassing.

#6 By 1845 (67.161.212.73) at Wednesday, November 19, 2003 03:53:28 PM

I've been monetizing Microsoft's infrastructure for three years now as a professional developer. I suspect most other Windows devs will tell the same story. You make any money RMD or do you do your .NET work for free? Schwartz shouldn't confuse Sun's problem with Java (making money from it) with 3rd party devs on Windows.

#7 By 1295 (216.84.210.100) at Wednesday, November 19, 2003 04:43:51 PM

#7 parker

"That has to the dumbest thing I've ever heard about Microsoft. "
Ditto

"The only reason I read eWeek is that its free and small and and I like to read it on the john."
Ditto!

#8 By 2332 (65.221.182.2) at Thursday, November 20, 2003 01:36:34 AM

While I might not make as much money as I think I should, I'm pretty sure I've used Microsoft's infrastructure to make some cash at some point. :-)

You have to kinda feel sorry for guys like Schwartz. At least Microsofties admit when their technology has some catching up to do... this guy is just in plain denial.

#9 By 20 (67.9.179.51) at Thursday, November 20, 2003 01:48:01 AM

Schwartz: I think Longhorn represents an attempt to rearchitect Windows to achieve the same attributes that we have with Java.

Holy cow... are these guys living in reality? Apparently not. Hint: No one buys the Java philosophy. BEA sells app servers and people build Java web apps to WebLogic. IBM manages to hoist the abomination that is WebSphere onto a few unsuspecting companies, but no one in their right mind would knowingly, willingly purchase it. Sun's stock is penny stock. They have no compelling offerings. They do nothing better than anyone else does. Why are they still around?

#10 By 2332 (65.221.182.2) at Thursday, November 20, 2003 09:34:50 AM

It often takes a long time for a large company like Sun to die.

#11 By 10802 (66.131.119.20) at Thursday, November 20, 2003 10:17:10 AM

This is a classic corporate agency problem associated with the free cash flow issue. Sun has cash to spare, so management ends up wasting it on unprofitable projects such as Java. Ideally, they would instead redistribute the cash to their shareholders and eventually shrink the size of their business. However, this is not in management's interest, since they would find themselves out of a job.

#12 By 9589 (68.17.52.2) at Thursday, November 20, 2003 12:05:24 PM

One can only hope, for the sake of the shareholders, that Schwartz get paid a salary commensurate with the profitability of Sun's software division . . . fat chance.

By the way, I am still ROLFLMAO from the above comments. You guys are really entertaining this morning!

#13 By 1845 (67.161.212.73) at Thursday, November 20, 2003 05:50:50 PM

daz, they kept a fair amount of cash on hand from the late 90's.

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