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Update for Windows XP Service Pack 2 (KB884020) (Validation Needed)

Time: 00:21 EST/05:21 GMT | News Source: ActiveWin.com | Posted By: Robert Stein

This update helps resolve an issue on computers running Windows XP Service Pack 2. Programs that connect to IP addresses in the loopback address range may not work as expected and you may receive an error message indicating you cannot establish a connection. After you install this item, you may have to restart your computer.

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#1 By 6253 (4.13.147.166) at Monday, September 20, 2004 06:50:35 PM

Did any of you actually TRY the download page before ranting?

Validation is NOT required. It is merely "recommended."

All you have to do is click Continue. Then on the next page, select the option "No, do not validate Windows at this time, but take me to the download."

It's sooooo easy. But noooooo, we would all rather complain about the evil Empire than click twice.

#2 By 1845 (67.164.202.16) at Monday, September 20, 2004 07:34:45 PM

I'm legal. I validated. It took less than 20 seconds. Oooooh, the pain.

#3 By 23275 (68.17.42.38) at Tuesday, September 21, 2004 12:26:00 AM

#9, try leaving the install files on the PC/Laptop and or do a "FullFile" install - in either case the original media is not required to apply Office Updates. You had to root out your CD Key, because your <large> OEM Pre-installed the software. This is called a OEM Direct Key - one of the licensing models for MS SW. Had you had either an OL, Full OEM [such as from a small builder], or any retail full or upgrade version, then you would have been able to validate - based upon a previous valid product activation. PA is actually a good thing - it is designed to lower the costs of legally acquired SW by authenticating the copies people use.

Media validation has been around long enough for people to know better - the updates also advise of this. Validating the OS in this case, is all that is recommended, but of course, as #7 said correctly, it is "not" required.

FullFile install scenarios/instructions may be found here, http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=828451

Just scroll down and read and follow the links as desired.

For Office 2003 users there is, Local installation source resiliency - see how this form of caching works and can be used to support yourself and end-users you take care of,
for example, you can use OSO.EXE to <Drive with most space>\MsoCache\Downloadcode
You can follow the instructions here to add the scant 240 MB Single CAB file to MsoCache and never have to sweat media again - http://www.microsoft.com/office/ork/2003/two/ch3/DepC06.htm

BTW, using this method as above, will allow your users to perform updates, or add features "without" having to have persistent admin rights, or admin rights on the LMZ. For example, non-persistent rights would allow user to update Office, but not install programs from a CDROM/other optical, etc... - good for medium to large corporate environments.

Finally, we maintain that there is precious little "original thought" - so chances are it will be tough to find a situation for which there is not a good or even great solution that has already been evolved opposite a similar need.

#4 By 23275 (68.17.42.38) at Tuesday, September 21, 2004 11:44:57 AM

#11, On the contrary, we do! We supply full retail boxed copies or full OEM Media - as desired by each client. Further, each system arrives turn-key and is fully hardened and patched out of the box. As defined by the user, each system is a turn-key solution, ready for immediate use.
We have been OEM Systems builders for over five years and all systems are warranted with no questions asked for four years. We are not alone in doing this. Many small builders support their products this way. We have one rule: "if you yourself would not use the system to support your family, then don't ship it."

#5 By 1845 (67.164.202.16) at Tuesday, September 21, 2004 08:53:34 PM

Every Dell I've ever owned has shipped with a separate CD for Windows and a separate CD for Office. I received my most recent Dell in late March.

#6 By 23275 (68.17.42.38) at Wednesday, September 22, 2004 09:07:26 AM

#16, Did you order an upgrade to your OS base option - e.g., XP Pro over XP Home?
Did you order Office 2003 Pro, vice SW that was bundled? Finally, did you order an extended warranty option? With large OEM's we most often see a silk-screened/branded version of a recovery CD that contains a OEM Direct version of the OS. We encounter this when we service systems we do not manufacture. In large companies it is not so much a problem, as many are sold with management packs of one type or another, but small businesses and individuals often are presented with challenges - especially when the OEM requires a Main Board change. I was just curious, because I had not seen a full OEM CD ship with a major OEM sysem in a while - in fact, most have a recovery set that requires the end-user to produce five or more CDROMs to create a recovery set - using a locked boot strap to support the recovery process [HP especially]. Regardless, I kow the OEM's have it pretty tough and have to save where they can. It would however, be helpful if at the point of sale, they disclosed the differences in full and direct OEM licensing and offered options to buyers. A lot of folks do not know that they cannot transfer a direct OEM OS from the original system to a new system - say from a dead OEM PC to a home/hobby built system. I have noted that with full boxed versions, no matter how many times we burn a system down, or install new components as many enthusiasts do, MS always issues a new key with no questions asked - they most often express regrets for any inconvenience - if a 3 minute call is in any way inconvenient. Once they sent me a 128 MB USB Key, and a thank you card, just for calling and the key process took longer than they wanted - it didn't seem too long to me, but it was a nice gesture just the same.

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