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VMware deserves a lot of credit. Even though hardware virtualization has been around for decades in one form or another, we wouldn't have it in the x86 space without VMware. The hardware and OS vendors would have been happy to keep selling hardware that was only 20% utilized. VMware turned this industry on its head. But it has awoken the slumbering giant that is Microsoft...
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#1 By
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Monday, April 07, 2008 04:43:06 AM
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Caution: Ad attack on that page. Lol.
This post was edited by tuxplorer on Monday, April 07, 2008 at 04:43.
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#2 By
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Monday, April 07, 2008 08:02:49 AM
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Just a couple things about this article and why VMware is doomed:
"They only make one type of product, and it's a market that everyone is entering."
Yes, but they're the inovators. When someone mentions virtualization, what's the first name to pop-up; VMWare.
"They're competing against Microsoft."
No, Microsoft is competing against them. Microsoft has aquired and bought-out other companies to try and compete with VMWare. Also, Microsoft is trying to kill VMWare and the case of running Windows virtually by what's in the EULA. You can't run Vista in a virtual environment, unless you buy and install the Ultimate version; BUT if you want to test Vista, here's our VHD which only runs on Virtual Server for you to test.
"People will want to buy a more complete integrated solution from one vendor, and that includes things that VMware doesn't own"
Um, let's see. I can get Blade servers running ESX Server 3i from HP (something we're looking into , I can get servers from IBM which are setup the same, and I think Sun is offering the same. The good part, I can get tech support from HP concerning VMWare issues.
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Monday, April 07, 2008 12:55:45 PM
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#2: In parkker's usual charming way, he was trying to say that, yes, Microsoft initially said only Ultimate edition could be virtualized. However, after the entire VM world cried out about how ridiculous this was, MS flip-flopped and allowed you to use Vista Home editions.
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#5 By
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Monday, April 07, 2008 03:03:51 PM
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#4 "Microsoft initially said only Ultimate edition could be virtualized"
And Vista Business. And Vista Enterprise.
And if you had MSDN, you could vitualize Home and Home Premium.
"Developers with MSDN subscriptions are able to run ALL versions of Windows Vista (including Home Basic and Home Premium) in virtual machines for development purposes. In addition, they are also able to make as many copies of those virtual machines as they wish for development purposes."
#4 "after the entire VM world "
Mostly Mac users. Business and MSDN subscibers were fine.
Microsoft decided to be even more generous. They should be applauded.
Asshats never give Microsoft any credit.
This post was edited by NotParkerToo on Monday, April 07, 2008 at 15:04.
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#6 By
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Monday, April 07, 2008 08:18:46 PM
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unless I see a "7 pillars of creating virtualization apps mission statement" I will question MS commit to this market.
"7 pillars" == MS is serious
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#7 By
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Tuesday, April 08, 2008 12:19:30 AM
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It's no accident that VMware has over 85% of the enterprise virtualization market. While Microsft is famous for playing catch up and ultimately dominating, this is one area where it's not working for Microsoft. VMware has had and will have for at least through the present Microsoft product cycle the edge on Microsoft.
For example, VMware's VMmotion allows one to move a "workload" (an OS and application) from one server to another seamlessly. Even Microsoft's new entry into virtualization can't do that.
Another example, is the huge installed base implies a great deal of hard one and expensive courses and study in how best to employ virtualization in an enterprise evironment with network, server, and storage personnel all in the mix. Even if Microosft's product were superior, it would take years for most enterprises to ween themselves off of VMware in favor of Micorosft's product. That isn't happening.
If Microsoft wants a piece of this market, they are just going to have to produce a better product. While Windows Server 2008 is a great product, the virtualization piece is an also ran.
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