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Why Bing is not the Wave of the future

Time: 12:08 EST/17:08 GMT | News Source: ZDNet | Posted By: Byron Hinson

If Microsoft is so powerful, why does it leave it to Google to innovate? On Thursday, within minutes of each other, Microsoft and Google made hugely important announcements. Microsoft launched its rebranded, retooled search engine, inexplicably called Bing, and Google unveiled the no less strangely named Wave.

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#1 By 15406 (216.191.227.68) at Monday, June 01, 2009 02:34:25 PM

"Microsoft talks of innovation, and it invests in research, but it defaults to stasis and duplication."

I've been saying it for years.

#2 By 92283 (24.64.223.204) at Monday, June 01, 2009 08:13:30 PM

#1 And you've been wrong every time.

#3 By 23275 (24.196.4.141) at Monday, June 01, 2009 08:29:25 PM

I don't know how one would characterize Bing as anything other than innovative.

I think this is going to shake some things up out there - been on bing for the last half hour and it's amazing and fun.

#4 By 28801 (65.90.202.10) at Tuesday, June 02, 2009 07:42:34 AM

Can somebody spoon-feed me the great benefits of WAVE. Not the benefits of standardization of HTML5 but the whole collaborative thing. Is there anything new there?

#5 By 44902 (82.68.72.185) at Tuesday, June 02, 2009 08:43:43 AM

Bing is wrong... Why? Simple test.
Compare results for "42", "ultimate question" and "ultimate answer".
It's my favorite personal test. Bing is just BORING!

#6 By 12071 (124.168.165.79) at Tuesday, June 02, 2009 09:07:32 AM

Bing is the most amazing search engine on the planet. Wow... just look at the image in the background. This is what's been missing from all my search results in the past! Now I have something to distract me from the search results... excellent!

#3 We could characterize it as "ugly" and "limiting" (in terms of advanced searches, results etc.)

#4 Imagine Microsoft announced it and then you might appreciate it. Seriously. I don't think anything else will convince you that there's any merit to this otherwise. This is two things in one... it's a collaboration (god i hate that word - it's like playing management bingo!) of existing functionality (IM, email, RSS) into a new combined form and in real-time... a bit like Facebook and Twitter bringing something new to the table which wasn't really new if you know what i mean. And second... it's a demonstration that you don't need anything other than a browser - which is a nice way of saying "you don't need Windows". That's been Google's vision for a while now - and everyone has their opinions for and against this. Personally, I still like Sun's vision of the network pc of the 90's... which i guess isn't all that different to Google's vision... it's just executed differently. I would love to be able to sit in front of any pc and see my "desktop", whatever it may be, my configuration, my settings, my files, everything the way i like it as soon as I log into it. So that I have everything on hand that i need. Whether this is possible via a browser remains to be seen.

#5 This most likely has more to do with Microsoft not returning wikipedia links unless you actually type wikipedia into the search parameters.

#7 By 12071 (124.168.165.79) at Tuesday, June 02, 2009 09:36:36 AM

#4 If you really are interested... watch: http://wave.google.com/

#8 By 23275 (24.196.4.141) at Tuesday, June 02, 2009 09:54:48 AM

I would love to be able to sit in front of any pc and see my "desktop", whatever it may be, my configuration, my settings, my files, everything the way i like it as soon as I log into it. So that I have everything on hand that i need. Whether this is possible via a browser remains to be seen.

Three letters: RDC, Remote Differential Compression. Among my favorite things in Vista/Win7/WS08

RDC and Mesh technologies will allow for exactly what you want. In much less time than the likes of HTML 5 will ever mimic what was possible in the browser some years ago, RDC and cloud based profiles will. Your "stuff" will reside in many stores, many cloud formations and be available on any PC connected to the Internet.

Finally, anyone who truly leverages MS SW already knows that the stuff in Wave is cool, but dated, cluttered and significantly less than that offered already. It's a different approach and has great potential, but it is too late and yes, I still maintain that the browser is dead as a door nail. It's about time too.

#9 By 12071 (124.168.165.79) at Tuesday, June 02, 2009 10:40:57 AM

#8 I said any pc... not a pc that's running the latest version of Windows :) And that's fundamentally what you don't "get" about the browser as a platform. Or at least that's why you want the browser as a platform "dead as a door nail" (just like MS does)! As I said before, whether the browser is the appropriate platform for all of these solutions remains to be seen - i have some skepticism - but i see why it's being pushed the way it is... to try and make the browser the "OS"... one that is built on open standards so that you can jump on any pc and use any browser to run any application built for that platform.

As for "dated, cluttered and significantly less than that offered already"... you really couldn't have summarized "Bing" any better! As for Wave - perhaps you're using better tools than the rest of us, but I can't currently do the things that are possible in Wave anywhere as integrated as they are in Wave. And Wave is available to any one, on any pc, on any browser... not just those "who truly leverage[sic] MS SW". The real time collaboration is very cool.

#10 By 15406 (216.191.227.68) at Tuesday, June 02, 2009 11:51:18 AM

#9: What?! What do you mean, a PC without Windows? Bill Gates invented computing, I'll have you know. And he did it with an OS he wrote all by himself.

#11 By 1896 (68.153.171.248) at Tuesday, June 02, 2009 04:30:10 PM

I have mixed feeling about Bing: it is surely better than the predecessor but....
I tried to enter the words "My phone" and no one of the link in the first two pages brought me to

http://myphone.microsoft.com/mkweb/Start.po?mkt=en-US&ocid=sem_enus_g-myphone

Using Google the above listed link was in the top spot.

Mah......

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